deGRIFTify

An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects. ”The cold war of the 21st century isn’t fought with weapons, and it isn’t waged between countries; it’s with information, between people. Whether you know it or not, you’re already a belligerent! Learn how to cut to the core of the issues, sift through the nonsense, and see what each side’s true goals are. And if you think we’re wrong, tell us why. We’ll tell you why we aren’t (unless we are).” - T & J

Episodes

Iran update 3/02

Mar 3, 2026

Mar 3, 2026

35 min

Thomas and Joel discuss the state of President Trump's war on Iran, its objectives, and its outlook.
Thanks for listening.
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An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
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Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
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Mar 3, 2026

35 min

Feb 19, 2026

40 min

Thomas and Joel discuss the recent reassignment of various military assets. 
Thanks for listening.-
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 

Feb 19, 2026

40 min

040 - ICE episode

Feb 17, 2026

Feb 17, 2026

57 min

A rambling and by no means exhaustive discussion of ICE, its grifts, its harm to the American public, and its future.Thanks for listening.
https://www.ft.com/content/c74170d3-237d-459c-8642-bfd71530897d-
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 

Feb 17, 2026

57 min

Feb 3, 2026

39 min

In today's episode Thomas and Joel discuss the basic tenets of foreign policy in the United States and briefly compare and contrast the present administration's with those of previous Presidents.
Thanks for listening.
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An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 

Feb 3, 2026

39 min

Jan 20, 2026

41 min

President Trump has lately declared his intention of putting Greenland under US control, one way or another. His reasons for doing so are varied, but the reasoning behind it is related to his view on the balance of trade between the US and foreign countries. In today's episode Thomas and Joel discuss these only subtly related topics.
[citations]
https://www.piie.com/blogs/realtime-economics/2025/origins-us-trade-deficit-and-futility-tariffs
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An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 
 

Jan 20, 2026

41 min

Jan 6, 2026

56 min

Boy howdy, did we ever not see the Trump administration's capture of Maduro coming. In this episode Thomas and Joel assess the geopolitical implications of recent events and speculate what might happen next.
Thanks for listening.-
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 

Jan 6, 2026

56 min

Dec 30, 2025

45 min

Thomas and Joel give their predictions for 2026 in this year-end episode. Topics range from Venezuela and Ukraine to more domestic issues.
Happy holidays, and thanks for listening!-
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
 
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 

Dec 30, 2025

45 min

Dec 27, 2025

23 min

In today's episode Thomas discusses the so-called K-Shaped Economy and fields a few predictions for 2025.
Happy holidays!-
 
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 

Dec 27, 2025

23 min

Dec 16, 2025

47 min

In today's episode Thomas and Joel walk through five conspiracy theories related to recent news and discuss the merits of each. 
Thanks for listening.-
 
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 
 
 
 

Dec 16, 2025

47 min

Dec 9, 2025

33 min

A brief overview of how No Child Left Behind and the doctrine of Whole Word Reading failed a generation.
Thanks for listening.-
An increasingly complex world is one that is increasingly filled with scams, tricks, and grifts. deGRIFTify is a discussion podcast intended to cut through some of that haze. Hosts Thomas and Joel summarize contemporary issues by identifying hidden interests, highlighting contradicting narratives, and drawing comparisons between familiar and unfamiliar subjects.
 
[licensing]https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
Intro, edits in volume onlySkimel - Double tracked distorted electric guitar playing chords.ogghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Double_tracked_distorted_electric_guitar_playing_chords.ogg
Outro, edits in volume onlyClaude Reid - Acoustic Jazz Quartet no1 (métronome à 100 ) accompagnement.flachttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Acoustic_Jazz_Quartet_no1_(m%C3%A9tronome_%C3%A0_100_)_accompagnement.flac
Transitional sound effects, heavily distortedRobin Huw Bowen - Y Fwyalchen, from the 2015 album Iaith Enaidhttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Y_Fwyalchen_-_Robin_Huw_Bowen.ogg
 

Dec 9, 2025

33 min

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